[Honda-C70] Re: New Here, Leaky Seal!

Hello Jeremy

For the '80-'81 free online Passport manual, see page 168, section 18-2.
For the '82-'83 Passport, same manual, page 206, section 15.
For the '70-'72 C70 free online manual, see page 101, section 7. trouble shooting.

Ron in NJ

--- In Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com, "jeremy" <jvlobos.ksu@...> wrote:
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> Hey Baby Huey,
>
> Thanks for the reply! I had went to a parts site found on here and got a better look at the L cover seal, it is the cam gear cover as I thought. The seal is only 3-4 $ plus shipping unless someone on here has one handy. There are three model #'s for the seal, I'll check the parts list to be sure. I cant locate the troubleshooting guides by model as you say, if you can provide a link that would be great.
> Thanks again, Jeremy
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[Honda-C70] Starting .. it's so easy!

Ok, I know I sound like a complete screwball but it real gives me a kick to not kick the bike.

I love push starting my C70! That's it.. nothing too profound for most but since I recently learned the simple way to push start I don't use the kick starter or electric.

Turn on gas, choke it, turn on ignition, upshift once from neutral, push it forward a few inches, upshift again, then push it a few feet (maybe 3-4) until it starts right up.

I usually do it on level ground it's so simple. The little things really make the bike more special.

I don't know if it could cause issues. Please advise..
unless I hear otherwise that's my method.

Best of luck,
Joe

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Magnifico! Ferrari Brings F40 and 599 GTB Together for a Whimsical Duel

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[Honda-C70] Re: After rebuilding my whole bike, I need a mechanic for the bearings

if you believe oreilly has the tools for such small a diameter then perhaps I should double-check the rental mat thing next time I'm in, maybe bring a spare hub to be sure...

--- In Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com, william belleau <wjbelleau@...> wrote:
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> What part of the world are you in?
> I bought a blind bearing puller cheap from a guy selling cheap tools off the back of his van. Does any of the auto supply houses
> near you loan tools? the O' Reilly just up the road from me loans tools with a deposit.
> Are your bearings seal or open face, have you tried to clean them? The original design was open face so you did not remove them to
> clean and regrease. You just removed the wheel from the bike, removed the seal from the wheel and cleaned the bearing and hand repacked them.
> Bill
> Portland OR
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> From: Jean Luc Picard <atari2600a@...>
> To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:56 PM
> Subject: [Honda-C70] After rebuilding my whole bike, I need a mechanic for the bearings
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> Okay so my bike is all up & running again after 2 months of dicking around, but I have a problem: my bearings are going out & instead of repacking them I figure I SHOULD replace them-- the rear wheel has 7K miles on it & the front has 3K but apparently it was an abusive 3K miles as it's worse than the rear.
>
> So, knowing it'd probably be impossible to get my hands on a bearing removal tool for something this small AND with my previous luck with bearings, I was wondering how much it would cost for a mechanic to pack & swap them for me, bearings provided by me; Front set, rear set, drive flange bearings.
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Cadillac Challenges Mercedes-Benz by Pitting the Escalade Against the C-Class [Video]

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Re: [Honda-C70] Tire and brake changing

tires are finger pinching, frusterating and time consuming... but
plan for it and take breaks. do it where you can leave it out for a
while. I used the tool kit pliers (they come apart for tire irons)
and wish I'd found a set of larger ones to barrow. Remimber if your
putiing in new tires new tubes are nice too. get it all done at once.
the ride is sure nicer on new rubber.

bill in palm desert.

On 9/20/11, Thadwallen <thadwallen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm getting ready to change my tires and breaks on my 81 C70 and I was
> wondering how hard of a job it is to get the back wheel off and dealing with
> the chain and also how difficult is it to replace the breaks. I could use
> some advice and good pointers!!!
> Thanks for your time Thadd
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RE: [Honda-C70] Help/Advice Kick Starting my Honda c70 with Lifan 4-stroke Engine...

Michael : I agree in part. So why are Harley sportsters now 883 when they were called 900 in the 60`s . Are they trying to make big bikes sound small enough to be a first bike for new riders ? Maybe we should have started a new topic for this . Oops. Baby Huey`s 2 cents

To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
From: mikeswan@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:36:59 -0700
Subject: RE: [Honda-C70] Help/Advice Kick Starting my Honda c70 with Lifan 4-stroke Engine...

I don't think they lie, they just make it easier for us consumers by rounding the number, either up or down. As they say, size does not matter, it is what you do with with what you have that counts!
Michael

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From: myron andrews <mvandrews13@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Honda-C70] Help/Advice Kick Starting my Honda c70 with Lifan 4-stroke Engine...
To: honda-c70@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:19 PM

Cup : To tell if the choke is on or off ,remove the pod air cleaner or rubber intake hose if the bike has the stock air cleaner , & look at the butterfly plate in the end of the carb . That is the choke plate. Move the lever & watch . When the lever closes the plate the choke is ON . A cold motor will usually need choke to start a warm motor may or may not. DRATV.com sells Lafan motor & has a section on how to install them . You might check there to see if he has info you can use with your project problem bike. As far as size , a HONDA C70 has 72cc cast right on the base of the cylinder. So a 97 would likely be called a 100 . My old Norton 850 was 824cc . ALL the companies lie about size. Baby Huey`s 2 cents

To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
From: thecupp@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:25:58 +0000
Subject: [Honda-C70] Help/Advice Kick Starting my Honda c70 with Lifan 4-stroke Engine...

So I have a Honda c70 with a Lifan 4-stroke Engine that reads 97 cm^3 on the side. The guy on CL I bought it from tells me it's 100cc though which I'm pretty sure Lifan doesn't make. The bikes wires are not intact so using the button to start it is out of the question for right now, and although I was able to drive it after push starting it down a hill I cannot for the life of me get it to kick start.

Does anyone have any experience with this issue and any info on what I might be doing wrong?

Bike has gas, oil, and a brand new spark plug. I have read to open the choke all the way but I can't find any diagrams online or photos on how to do this for my engine model. There are no labels. The lever goes up or down. Yesterday it push started while down.

This is my first bike and it's a real fixer upper (obviously) but I'm enjoying learning about it and boy was riding it around a blast yesterday. Just wish I didn't need someone pushing me to get it going.

Planning on doing the electrics soon as I can, I guess once that's taken care of kick starting won't be as important?

A kick start check list or a link to a manual or starting guide with photos would be awesome!

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New Hyundai Veloster gets Turbocharged for Upcoming SEMA Show

We already know for a fact that Hyundai is planning to launch a more powerful version of its new Veloster sports car fitted with a 1.6-liter turbocharged engine delivering 208HP for a 0-62mph (100km/h) sprint time of under 7 seconds (Carscoop has officially confirmed all numbers), with European sales to start in early 2012.

We still don't know when and if this engine will be offered in North America, but those interested in a more hardcore Veloster will have a chance to see plenty of aftermarket options at this November's SEMA show in Las Vegas.

Among the many Veloster proposals that are expected to be displayed in SEMA, is a highly modified model created by Hyundai in partnership with ARK Performance.

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“Quantitative growth is important, but qualitative growth is also important. We plan to focus on improving product quality and our brand," Sam-ung said at the launch of the new Rio.

RE: [Honda-C70] Re: New Here, Leaky Seal!

Jeremy : The manuals & trouble shoot guides are all listed at the bottom of each Email but tell me a year group 70-73 ,80-81, 82-83 & I will send the the http for yours if you still can`t find them. Baby Huey

To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
From: jvlobos.ksu@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 03:48:43 +0000
Subject: [Honda-C70] Re: New Here, Leaky Seal!

Hey Baby Huey,

Thanks for the reply! I had went to a parts site found on here and got a better look at the L cover seal, it is the cam gear cover as I thought. The seal is only 3-4 $ plus shipping unless someone on here has one handy. There are three model #'s for the seal, I'll check the parts list to be sure. I cant locate the troubleshooting guides by model as you say, if you can provide a link that would be great.
Thanks again, Jeremy

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>
> Jeremy : Take the bolt in the center of the fined cover on the right side of the motor [head] off. The bolt runs all the way through the cam center to hold the cam gear cover on. That sounds like what you are talking about an oil leak. The head can be removed with out removing the cylinder or piston IF it comes to that. Are you using the troubleshooting guides at the bottom of the page for your year bike ? Also you might try going to a site like BikeBandit .com & using there parts schematics to get as better understanding of what is where & how it may fit & what it is called as well as order a part or gasket if it is listed as available. Good Luck ! Baby Huey
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> To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
> From: jvlobos.ksu@...
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:33:16 +0000
> Subject: [Honda-C70] New Here, Leaky Seal!
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> Hello group! I just wanted to get some help with my bike. I have done all the tune ups & she starts & runs fine, but I've noticed an oil leak on the ground. Have traced it to a small missing portion of seal on the left cylinder head, its with a cover that has no bolts to it, think its the cam cover.
>
> When running the gap in the seal is enough for me to feel air being pushed against my hand during compression. Bike only does about 30-35 & I'm guessing this is why. How do I get the cover off to replace the seal, do I need a whole new top end rebuild?
>
> Really don't wanna pop the cylinder off if I'll have to put a new set of rings in there & hone it but if thats the only way to get to that cover & that seal that will have to do. Let me know, I can get a pic if needed.
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Color me Matte: New Renault Clio RS 200 “Ange & Démon” Edition to be Produced in…666 Units

Renault is playing the good versus evil card with its new limited run Clio Renaultsport 200 “Ange & Démon”, which is French for Angels and Demons. Deviously, the bespoke version of the Clio RS will be produced in a…fiendish 666 units worldwide - as most of you already know, that's the number of the Beast in the Book of Revelation.

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Re: [Honda-C70] After rebuilding my whole bike, I need a mechanic for the bearings

What part of the world are you in?
I bought a blind bearing puller cheap from a guy selling cheap tools off the back of his van. Does any of the auto supply houses
near you loan tools? the O' Reilly just up the road from me loans tools with a deposit.
Are your bearings seal or open face, have you tried to clean them? The original design was open face so you did not remove them to
clean and regrease. You just removed the wheel from the bike, removed the seal from the wheel and cleaned the bearing and hand repacked them.
Bill
Portland OR

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From: Jean Luc Picard <atari2600a@yahoo.com>
To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:56 PM
Subject: [Honda-C70] After rebuilding my whole bike, I need a mechanic for the bearings

Okay so my bike is all up & running again after 2 months of dicking around, but I have a problem: my bearings are going out & instead of repacking them I figure I SHOULD replace them-- the rear wheel has 7K miles on it & the front has 3K but apparently it was an abusive 3K miles as it's worse than the rear.

So, knowing it'd probably be impossible to get my hands on a bearing removal tool for something this small AND with my previous luck with bearings, I was wondering how much it would cost for a mechanic to pack & swap them for me, bearings provided by me; Front set, rear set, drive flange bearings.

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New Chrysler Ypsilon Supermini Makes its Debut in Britain [50 Photos]

The Fiat-Chrysler alliance has said that the two groups will work hand-in-hand towards the development of all future models, with the Italian branch handling the smaller and compact / medium segments and the American, the medium and larger categories.

We'll have to wait to see the first (real) results, but for the time being, the group is making use of one brand's vehicles to supplement the lineup of another brand through the age-old approach of rebadging.

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Will Tire Tread Scanners Keep Roads Safer?

Posted: 30 Sep 2011 05:54 AM PDT

A few months back, Malcolm and I were headed north on I-95 after a Southern Automotive Media Association meeting in Miami. We were driving at around 75 miles per hour, in a steady rain and moderate traffic, when the minivan next to us spun.

The whole thing happened too fast to be puckering; one minute, the van was alongside us, and the next the driver was looking out his windshield at the side of my car. No one was hurt, and the van suffered only minor damage. Traffic was slowing ahead, and the minivan driver most likely tapped his brakes. What caused the spin? My guess is bald tires on a wet road.

Years ago, most states required annual vehicle inspections to certify that cars were safe to drive. Thanks to apathy, budget cuts or the idea that requiring repairs would put an "unfair financial burden" on drivers with limited income, annual inspections have largely been eliminated. The result is that many cars on the road today aren't safe at 35 miles per hour, let alone double or triple that. Scope the tires of cars in a shopping mall parking lot, and you'll see what I mean.

Motor Authority and AutoExpress report that a German company, ProContour, has developed a tire scanner, designed to spot unsafe tire tread depth. The scanner uses a series of high speed cameras and lasers to record and measure tread depth, at speeds up to 75 miles per hour. Tires that show wear to 1.6 millimeters, over the central 75 percent of the tread, would trigger an alarm at a nearby police checkpoint. Drivers would then be stopped and issued warnings or fines.

There's no plans yet to implement them on this side of the pond, but officials in the U.K are currently debating the benefits and drawbacks of installing the $67,000 scanners. While the scanners have the potential of increasing road safety, they also have the ability to generate revenue for local governments. As with speed cameras, we suspect the technology will be more about money than about safety.

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